a couple of your tweets -- 83% of food stamp recipients work full-time from don ritchie. from jan, with snap, medicaid, section eight, school lunch, heating assistance, how much would one need to learn for the same benefit? a response for either of those. guest: the average family is getting probably about $20,000 to 25,000 -- we have thousand dollars a year. 83% of people working full-time is not accurate, but if you are working full-time, the working requirement does not apply to you. we think in the long-term individuals would be benefited by a nudge it would move them more into the labor force and that would be best for the taxpayers as well. guest: we have not talked very much about wages. you could work full-time and your making them wage, you are making $15,000 a year. i would ask people to think about trying to support a family on 15 -- on $15,000 a year. these programs, including food stamps, help to bump that up, and in an important way, and the debt is just that if we did not have these programs at all, we would have 37 -- 30% of the population that are poor in